tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post7207554338062464474..comments2023-02-26T08:28:12.709-05:00Comments on Modern Medieval: Is There a Comment for this Blog?Rick Goddenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04109263756022001400noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-26628649209668532152013-10-28T10:21:59.900-04:002013-10-28T10:21:59.900-04:00Christopher, I just turned in a three-hole punched...Christopher, I just turned in a three-hole punched binder of teaching stuff for my Postdoc. I, too, wish I could just give a link to some online profile. <br /><br />Robin, good thoughts! I wonder how these alternative metrics will start to affect academic evaluation.Rick Goddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109263756022001400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-40759370526270024272013-10-28T10:20:07.565-04:002013-10-28T10:20:07.565-04:00Jonathan, your comment here caught my interest: &q...Jonathan, your comment here caught my interest: "And the larger question of how we archive/corral concurrent discussions is a big one." Reading this, it occurs to me that the urge to archive/corral might be curious itself. <br /><br />My post inadvertently waxes nostalgic for the good old days of blogging and focused online communities. And yet, the urge to archive and corral is, perhaps, a new one. FB and twitter are provisional and at times provisional, but in-person conversations are even more so. We can't archive all the conversations we have with colleagues at conferences, for example. <br /><br />I think Matt and Larry are exactly right about the issue of technology. The times, they are a-changing... And that's ok, too.<br /><br />Rick Goddenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109263756022001400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-57294511555534002932013-10-27T20:24:24.987-04:002013-10-27T20:24:24.987-04:00Interesting thoughts and comments. Yes, blogging ...Interesting thoughts and comments. Yes, blogging is "old news." Like writing of any kind though, blogging takes energy, thought, and time, even the most "social" post: they are not immediately interactive. And though FB and Twitter are now being bypassed in many ways, it is still the immediacy of communication that is the focus there. Still, I find blogging useful and important.<br /><br />Interestingly though, one practice I have not engaged in, and perhaps should, is announcing new posts via other media. Most of my students have no idea that I edit The Heroic Age or keep a blog and in fact some of my closest professional friends do not follow or subscribe or perhaps even know that I blog. SInce I've been on the internet so long, even before it was called that, I've always kept various online activities separate rather than pulling them altogether. So I have "communities" perhaps that I access in quite different ways. Not sure what to make of that yet, perhaps Rick has some thoughts.theswainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919025515524894537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-79775743204160690682013-10-27T11:25:02.383-04:002013-10-27T11:25:02.383-04:00Matthew makes a great point that maybe blogging --...Matthew makes a great point that maybe blogging -- and even FB and twitter -- are starting to feel like "yesterday's" social media as new platforms and practices emerge. And the larger question of how we archive/corral concurrent discussions is a big one. <br /><br />It is curious to me that blogging -- which started out as a more experimental, informal mode of writing compared to (say) publishing journal articles -- has now come to feel more formal, perhaps due to its "public" nature, and it has become acceptable to link to URLs in one's footnotes/citations. FB communities (in comparison) can feel more intimate, immediate, and provisional. And posting a comment a blog 1. feels more "public" and 2. takes a bit more time/effort.<br /><br />One advantage that I still see in the blog format is this comparatively "slow" pacing. Not everyone is on FB or twitter so blogs provide a certain archiving function in their own right -- they can't capture the entirely of the myriad concurrent conversations unfolding across all platforms, but they do capture some, and make that information more accessible.Jonathan Hsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214201468052661183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-71424276042420521062013-10-26T21:55:43.217-04:002013-10-26T21:55:43.217-04:00I think there's also the simple issue of techn...I think there's also the simple issue of technology - blogging is last year's. Students have moved on beyond blogging, facebook, twitter, etc. Even us (relatively) tech-savvy professors are struggling to keep up with the different media on which there are conversations. That surely plays into it too...Matthew Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14300129034304529436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-20153124832845606702013-10-25T19:16:58.901-04:002013-10-25T19:16:58.901-04:00The other thing I have thought about a lot is how ...The other thing I have thought about a lot is how all this online intellectual labor/archiving/conversation is somewhat incommensurate with the rather old school protocols of tenure and promotion processes. It would be so great if, when one is up for promotion, one could simply send along a link to one's online profile, regardless of the platform—and the committees would figure out how to read, evaluate, and appreciate the work both put *into* the archive as well as the linked online/print *contents* that the archive points to. This is very utopian, I realize. BUT…having just gone through the tenure application process, and having been made to jump through the various hoops and three-hole punch the paperwork packets required at my institution, it just seemed so silly to me—I wanted to include just one single page that said "Here's a link to my blog: it's all there." If I end up starting an alternative college at some point, I'll propose that promotion processes be open to diverse modes of delivery and new media forms.Christopher Schaberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04858471755272148591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3302491936414793074.post-29711079533151592002013-10-25T11:31:36.607-04:002013-10-25T11:31:36.607-04:00Thanks for the post, Rick. In my work with Hybrid ...Thanks for the post, Rick. In my work with Hybrid Pedagogy, and my also too infrequent blogging on my personal/professional website, I've been frustrated by how rarely comments show up on a post, even when a robust conversation might be happening on other social media venues like Twitter, Facebook, and Google+. At Hybrid Ped, we've also tried to promote the forum as a place for discussion, to the extent of organizing and running a virtual unconference. While that was a successful experiment in other ways, it didn't lead, as we'd hoped to continued interest and engagement in the forum once it was over.<br /><br />If post-publication peer review and alternative metrics are going to "work" as methods of evaluating academic production, I think you're right that we need to be more attentive to creating and curating the record of conversations sparked by blog posts. Although it's often easier to comment on Facebook, or Twitter, it's also important, as you note here, to make sure that conversation links back to (and is linked from) the original post.<br /><br />So, starting today, I'm setting myself the goal of being more diligent in creating and reinforcing those links. Also, in setting up our own blogging platforms, we can probably help things by allowing trackbacks from a variety of social media. And, in responding through a variety of social media, we can be better about creating those trackbacks by including links to the original post.a little birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371108779611376512noreply@blogger.com